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No messing up the bed

Be warned, this is likely controversial.

As a guest, I've taken to sleeping on top of the bed covers or on the sofa, in my sleeping bag. The reason being to save the host the trouble of changing the sheets. I do ask in advance if this is ok.

As a host, would you be appreciative, insulted, amused, concerned about the state of my bag, or the state of my mind? Maybe all of the above.

As a guest, is this something you'd even consider?

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Washing sheets isn't a big

Washing sheets isn't a big inconvenience to me (especially since I'll already be doing a load of laundry for towels used by the guest) and I would end up changing the linens even if the guest did sleep on top of the bed in their bag. I also wouldn't care one way or another what the guest did, but considering the condition of my own sleeping bag after a trip, I would be worried it would mess up the covers more than I would.

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Changing sheets

I'm with Sarah here, it doesn't make much of a difference. It can get rather warm and I cannot imagine being cocooned in hot sleeping bag when I don't have to be. Really, most people hosting count changing the sheets as part of the gig. Good that you are thinking of lessening your burden, play with the kids, toss the dog a stick, wash the dishes, chop wood, there are other things that are more practicable than foregoing the pleasure of sleeping between clean sheets.

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I would be washing the linens anyway

It doesn't matter if you use the sleeping bag or not, I would still wash the linens.

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Sleeping Bag

Why,if they haven't been soiled?

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Waste of water and energy

Waste of water and energy really! If the pillow cases are used, sure throw them in the wash. It's just not necessary to wash clean sheets.

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Sleeping Bag

As a guest, I was once asked by a host to do this in a bed. It struck me as a little quirky but one has to roll with the punches. As a host, I would never ask someone to do this, it's against my concept of hospitality. That's like saying, "Would you mind bathing with the garden hose. We don't want to get the shower stall wet."

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Sleeping Bag

I always endeavour to use either my sleeping bag and or my liner. Not using the hosts sheets nor towel, surely saves them time,trouble and money. They have been good enough to provide me with a bed, a roof over my head and often a meal, so anything I can do to to ease the additional load my presence creates is in my opinion a good thing.

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No messing up the bed

I don't have any problems washing sheets and towels, but I have a hard time making my own bed. I have an even harder time continually making up the guest bed. So I have come up with a solution...I have a 2nd set of sheets set out on the dresser of the guest room. I tell all visitors, whether it's my own family, friends or Warm Showers guests, that when they are getting ready to leave, please strip the sheets and set them near the washer, and please make up the bed for the next guest. Nobody minds! Sometimes the bed isn't made up with beautiful square corners, but oh well...

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Using a sleeping bag

Hostels usually don't allow use of a sleeping bag and their reasons would seem relevant to a warm showers host. (see http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1940775)

Good to be aware of anyway ...

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Our guests usually sleep in

Our guests usually sleep in their tent, which solves all those problems; other than that, it's a matter of negotiation. no definite " rule" for us - apart from the rule that we are *not* running a hotel :) .

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Ridiculous

As a host I make the bed especially for my guests and leave them towels to improve their experience. I'll be doing laundry anyway so an extra set of sheets and towels is no hassle. If a guest asked to sleep in their sleeping bag on top of the made bed I'd find it weird and just a tiny bit rude as it is, in one way, refusing an element of our hospitality. As a guest I think it's important to accept the hospitality offered -- I've never refused a drink or coffee or the opportunity to share a meal. To me that's part of the bargain -- as a host I enjoy offering hospitality and expect my guests to enjoy receiving it and as a guest I accept whatever hospitality is offered and am grateful to receive it.

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Messing up the Bed

Maybe like me they want to reduce the workload of the host, less washing,less power used etc!

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The responses suggest my idea

The responses suggest my idea for reducing a host's workload may have been misfounded. In the future, I'll be a bit more cautious about dragging out my sleeping bag.

If you happen to be overnighting at our house, you're free to do either, but if you use the bag, there'll be a couple of extra pancakes for you at breakfast.

For the person who ask guest to strip the bed and remake it, would you expect the same if a guest used a bag? BTW, I would not appreciate being asked to do that, and would never suggest it to a guest. OTOH, in the future, I will offer that service to my host, depending on their response to my sleeping bag preference.

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Bed Manners

I neglected to say in my last post that when staying with a host, I strip the bed and grab my used towels and ask where I should put them all. It is always appreciated. I also carry my own laundry soap for doing personal laundry.
I've run into hosts who mentioned to me that they do get guests at times that make them feel taken advantage of. This is usually in regards to the younger generation who have not been properly weaned from their mommas.

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Like it

Jack, I like your 'manner.' Thanks for the suggestion.

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I think it's nice to offer

I think it's nice to offer that and if the host will say if they think it's a big deal. Some of us have to leave the apartment to do laundry so it's more of a big deal than if you have your own washing machine. Of course if the sleeping bad is not clean, I'd still have to wash at least the top sheet, so you might as well just sleep on that. But in general I wouldn't host people if washing the sheets was too hard.

On the other hand, as a guest I always want to help in any way that's helpful for the host. So I like the idea of asking guests to make the bed for the next guest, or wash the sheets (if they aren't leaving right away) or just start the wash cycle.

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It depends what you're most

It depends what you're most comfortable doing as a guest, I guess. :-) Some people's houses I've stayed at (nothing to do with cyclists/hosts from this website) have dubious standards of cleanliness which has led me to refuse to sleep in-between the sheets of their spare bed.
I have a good feeling about the users of this website though, being cyclists, they must surely love warm showers after a day's toil in the saddle and being clean. To me cycling, personal hygeine and warm showers go hand-in-hand.

Still, as a guest, you're the guest, and if you want you can sleep on a hessian sack for me, if it helps you rest up for the next day's cycling. :-)

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What would Ms Manners say?

I have a very nice guest room with a comfy bed made with clean sheets and blankets that I offer to my WarmShower guests. The sheets are part of the bed, so when i offer the guest-bed i assume we both understand that the sheets are part of the deal. Anytime a guest states that they should instead sleep outside or on the floor so as not to burden me, I must admit I feel a little twinge of hurt feelings because it feels like the guest is implying that there is some sort cast system where I am too important to have to wash the sheets they slept in. And also the guest has put me in the position of insisting that they accept the bed with sheets I've just offered them.

I think it is the host's responsibility to let the guest know the rules of staying in their home. So if I offer you a nice comfy bed, then please take it because I really love to hear "Thanks so much! I haven't slept in a bed in 3 days!" It makes me feel like my small act of hosting you for a night has had a positive impact on your trip. And someone allowing me to be kind to them is a wonderful gift to me. And you know, I have my own laundry to do anyway. What are a couple more sheets?

In return, I rarely offer to buy my guest dinner if we go out to a local Mexican restaurant, and I always expect to pay for my own meal. But if my guest offers to pay my portion of the bill I gladly accept their generosity because I assume that they want to offer me that small gift in return.

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Sheets.

I have a LOT of cyclists who pass through. So many that when I built my present house, I designed the guest room and guest bath with cyclists in mind. When a cyclist sleeps inside (on a comfy bed, with good clean, luxurious smooth sheets) and they ask if they should sleep on the bed on top of things in their bag, I tell them to enjoy the bed. And then I tell them that I will change the sheets anyway. ANYONE sleeping inside at my house will sleep on clean linens and have clean towels, etc. Period. Usually, if they do sleep in their bag, on the bed, they partake of my pillows, digging them out of a well made bed, so...the bed is now rumpled and probably has the aroma of the specific smells that accompany bike tourists (oh, the ambience) from their sleeping bag and they've used the pillow.
When I built this current house, I built the guest room and adjoining private bath specifically for cyclists, even down to a separate entrance from the outside...I can change linens, towels, spray down with disinfectant in the bathroom and have it all done in less than 15 minutes. And like an earlier poster said, it's part of the warmshowers gig. I just give guests what *I* would like.
The energy to wash and dry is minimal. I do laundry anyway and dry bed linens on the line when I can..
Perry
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Heck, this is what I joined

Heck, this is what I joined WarmShowers for! Peoples' hospitality is really cool here. Makes me want to hop on the bike and visit you all :-)

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"don't mess up the bed" by using your sleeping bag

Hi, If you would choose to do this, I think it's fine. As a host, I would probably still like to give you a sheet to put over the bedding to just keep things clean as I know my sleeping bag has hit the ground more than once. But overall, I like this option. Enjoy!

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Not using the hosts/hotel beds

I sleep on the floor with my camping mat, sleeping bag, and my own sheets and pillow, even if the host says they don't mind washing the sheets after just one night's use. I think that would be so wasteful.

I even do this when I stay at a hotel (which I don't do often) and try to get a cheaper rate that way (never works but I try anyway), and in the end I don't use the bed of the hotel because the principle is the same. You don't use all that electricity and water to wash something that has hardly been soiled. My camping mat and sleeping bag are clean, so it would be no problem putting the sleeping bag on the bed covers but that would mess up the neatly made bed. I actually sometimes put my rainfly onto of the bed in very cheap hotels -like in China or Morocco- and a couple of times the room was so dirty that I actually put up the tent in the room and slept in my tent (home away from home).

If the hosts insist on my using the bed, I say that it's better for my back to sleep on a firm surface, which is true. When I'm in a hostel (like youth hostels, in a dorm with bunk beds), then I do use the bed because otherwise I'd be in the way of people walking around.

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Joshua Tree Visit?

Hi, Very nice note and wonderful adventure. Can you give me better feeling for your time line and anticipated time that you would be in Joshua Tree? Thanks in advance. Enjoy, Mary Ann